big brown truck just brought my TFO 6' 2 weight have not received my Dennison reel yet ..so here is my questions i bought the 444 classic wf 2 clear
creek line how much line can i put on my Dennison ? do i use any backing ? or just line ? next question is i have 9' tappered leaders can i cut some off my
butt end so it sorta matches my 6' rod so i'm not crank'n the knot through the guides all the time ??i'm a newbie at this fly fishing so if my
questions seem a little off base bare with me ..
thanks,
TK
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keebranch |
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Posts: 1966 07/03/09 6:30 PM Administrator / Moderator |
good question- I would think that if the line is 70' long i'd cut it in two and go that way.
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Posts: 49 07/03/09 6:50 PM |
it say's 30 yrd spool if i'm doing my math right that's 90' of line . if i cut it in half that leaves me 45 ' would i use backing or not ? like i said i'm a newbie.... |
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Posts: 2055 07/03/09 7:28 PM Administrator
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Since you have a WF line and not a DT, I wouldn't necessarily cut it exactly in half. I might cut 20' off the *back* and try it on the reel and then
cut more off if necessary. You really don't need much backing so once you get the line shortened where it almost fills the spool then you can just add
10-15 yards of backing and call it good. In fact with a WF2 it's possible you won't have to shorten the line at all depending on the reel.
If you had a DT line then it makes sense to cut it exactly in half. Since both ends are tapered you end up with two lines for the price of one. A WF line is only tapered at the front of the line so the part you cut off is effectively waste. The advantage of the WF is that it's usually a little easier to cast. Most of us have a mix of WF and DT lines. In regards to your leaders it depends on the thickness. If they're heavy--like a 2X or 3X--you can cut a couple feet off the butt, but if they're already pretty light--5X or 6X--you might want to just shorten the tip a bit depending on what you're fishing for. Again, it might not be necessary to shorten them at all though. Because in fly-fishing you're not reeling your whole line in after every cast, having a leader longer than your rod is no problem. I have 7' leaders on 5' rods, and some guys fish 12' leaders on 8' rods. You really only have to worry about it while landing a fish, and then you just pull the leader back out past the tip-top and you're ready to cast again. I hope this helps! Jerry |
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Posts: 49 07/03/09 7:38 PM |
great info guy's thanks for the help ...sometimes i over think stuff ...but i like to ask before i make a mistake ...
thanks again for the great info !! TK. |
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Posts: 2055 07/03/09 7:40 PM Administrator
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No problem. Let us know how it goes. I had a Dennison reel with a 0 wt line and it held the entire line plus some backing so you might not have to trim
anything. BTW, it sounds like you got a great little outfit.
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Posts: 49 07/03/09 7:55 PM |
it's a super sweet rod ... wren feather light ..... i talked to the fellow at Dennison on the phone and he said i might have to trim a little but i might get it all on ...i will see when i get the reel ..i can't wait to hook a lake gill on a spider or a smallie ..i love ultralight spinning gear and this will be much more a thrill i'm sure .. |
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Posts: 80 07/04/09 9:27 AM Forum Supporter
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I am shopping for my first 2wt. I was at the flyshop yesterday and looking at a hardy reel. When I asked how much line and backing it would hold, the guy told
me he would reverse wrap it to find out. I like the idea of get a DT and cutting it in half.
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tinknocker1 |
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Posts: 49 07/04/09 10:13 AM |
bluegillfisher wrote:what's the purpose of reverse wrapping it ??? |
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Posts: 49 07/04/09 11:24 AM |
i'm going to ask my 2 weight questions here since i started the thread ..
can i still be able to toss say a size 10 or 12 popper like a miss prissy ,bluegill special or a size 10 buggle bug with my small ultra light ?? and can i nail knot a short section of size 4# or 6 # floro.and tie a a popper on and toss it with out a taper leader ?like a short section of say 3 feet nail knoted to the fly line and still cast ? i'm not to worried about presentation as much as get'n the little bug up the shore line . |
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Posts: 80 07/04/09 12:16 PM Forum Supporter
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You put the line on, and then the backing until full. Then you remove it and spool the right way. An extra step, but you would have the right amount of leader
to go with line.
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Posts: 49 07/04/09 12:27 PM |
bluegillfisher wrote:i got yuh !! 
thanks for the reply gillfisher !! 
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Posts: 1966 07/04/09 4:15 PM Administrator / Moderator |
tinknocker1 wrote:Today I went down to the local creek with my TFO 6 foot 2wt over-lined with cortland 10 meter line-it's a 3DT. I was specifically targeting bass 8'-16" and using 3 weight ed flies all sized 8, 10, and 4. while this might not be enjoyable for a beginner, I used an oval cast and dropped these in caught 16-17 bass today. I like using large flies on this rig. As for the 4 -6# fluoro for a popper -keep in ind fluoro sinks- so I would go with mono. I prefer furled leaders to help roll flies out, and to aid in pushing out a wind-resistant or heavy fly I would use 3X tippet. And yes 10, 12 poppers are no problem for this rod with 2wt line especially a weight forward. I would recommend pulling out 20-25 feet of line and roll casting to the target. If you have any further questions about this rod I'd be happy to help. Les |
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Posts: 49 07/04/09 5:37 PM |
i need to research furled leaders and a rolled cast ..not sure what you mean ..i have fished all my life and have been flyfishing a little over a month ..you
guy's are a great help but i'm real green to most of this ..
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Posts: 2055 07/04/09 6:12 PM Administrator
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tinknocker1 wrote:It'll come. The learning new stuff is a big part of the fun too. Find someone near you that fly fishes and go for a few outings. That'll really speed things up. Have fun! |
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Posts: 49 07/05/09 2:09 AM |
i did a little research on the furled leader's ..some have loop's on both ends and some have a loop to fly line and the other end has a small ring to
tie the tippet to ..just wondering how "you" conect your furled leader to your fly line ? do you trust the factory loop on your fly line or do you
create a new one ? since i cut off my factory loop for the nail knot i may need to make a new loop ..i seen on another forum were pearow has a thread on making
up a flyline loop ..looks pretty simple ..any brand furled leader you recomend ? i'm going to need at least 3 sizes one for panfish one for my 4weight and
one for my 8weight bass rod.
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Posts: 49 07/06/09 5:55 PM |
i recieved my Dennison reel today the rod came last friday ..i got all the 2wf line on with no backing no problems either ....now i just tied on a 6x tippet
"it's all i had " can i cut off a section off the front of the tippet and add some heavier mono ??i don't have no tippet material .i have 6#
mono 4# mono and 2# mono ...
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tinknocker1 |
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Posts: 49 07/06/09 9:09 PM |
well got to fish a little bit tonight ...had one bass break my tippet ...and caught several gills ...
i tossed a wilson spider mostly .i seem to be casting ok for the first night ..i think the tippet is way to light .i found a couple 4x leaders i had i'm going to try them till i get some tippet material .. |
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Posts: 1966 07/06/09 9:32 PM Administrator / Moderator |
That reel looks like a good match.
As for the leader/ tippet most sunfish are not tippet shy- go heavier so you break off fewer fish. Les |
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Posts: 2509 07/06/09 9:37 PM Forum Owner / Administrator
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I have the Dennison and a WF2F Clear Creek. The reel will hold the entire 90' line plus 6-8 feet of backing.
J.
The Ultralight Fly Fishing Forum
Ultralight Fly Fisherman, and small stream specialist. NE Ohio, Mahoning River Watershed. |
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tinknocker1 |
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Posts: 49 07/06/09 9:38 PM |
keebranch wrote: how much heavier can i get away with ?? i just tied on a 4x tippet .i think it was suggested on a above thread that i could go with a 3x ?? i also ordered some furled leader's from a couple links on this forum ... |
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